Thanks for all of your vids and you helped me get my last two rifles with all the choices. Again a super nice old world crafted gun anyone would be proud to own and show off to friends. The Tikka T3X Lite comes with an absolutely fantastic action. I am looking for an all purpose dependable rifle to handle more than one role. Dont get me wrong. If you had 1500-2500 just for one, which make would you drop that cash on? LOL. Travis Skurray from Australia. I have the weather extreme in 25-05 that I purchased for a Pronghorn hunt topped with a Leupold VX6 HD. Ive shot it twice and didnt like it either time. 1 Image (s) Franchi Momentum Elite 6.5 Creed Realtree Excape 24" TB Burnt Bronze 41606. Required fields are marked *. The Sig Cross: Amazing design after some early quality control issues. Jim, Ive owed most of the brands youve mention here. I was very impressed at the response I got from John and can tell you Fierce is a company that stands behind their products. CVA all the way. Also, I am 62 and getting tired of the recoil my 7mm Rem Mag and .270 has, would the 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC or 7mm-08 be a good alternative? I\ve hunted since high school age but always small game/birds. So, here are my quick thoughts on some of the competition for the best premium factory rifle under $2,500. The Elite Varmint, introduced last year, should readily . In todays market, it needs a more modern stock design, carbon barrel, and premium trigger to be worth the price they are asking. Im a lefty that has to shoot cross over right handed bolts. The action is a little sticky at the back because its a 2-lug so theres a little play at the back if you arent pushing straight. My brother and another buddy bought one (223 and 22-250) because mine shot so well and they had similar results. Ive been kicking around trying out the 28 Nosler just to pick up a bit more performance at 500+ ranges. Its typically priced around $950, but for $100 extra dollars over the $850 budget, you get an adjustable mini chassis. My personal favorite elk cartridge is a 7mm Rem Mag. Fastest/flattest 6.5 using 143 gun ELD-X bullets. Its an interesting concept but I prefer a traditional bolt. A shiny one. Unless you spend 4-5 G on a custom built left handed. Overall Length: 42.3 inches And all the great work you do! have you try the weatherby mark v accumark in 300 win mag? I owned one in .28 Nosler and it was a very poor choice for that heavy-recoiling of a cartridge. Trigger pull is most critical for me. I sent my Rival back for repair and after six weeks it came back with the same problem. Stock: A carbon version of Bergaras excellent HMR stock. Another group was slightly more evenly distributed but similar in size. He has managed multiple gun ranges, and has hunted around the world. Both have 3 lug bolts with the lugs integral with the rest of the bolt body 3. In front of the recoil pad, on the bottom of the Momentums shoulder stock, are two molded-in features: a hand groove grip area for holding the stock with ones support hand while shooting from a rest, and a recessed sling swivel mount. You mentioned the seekins havoc, but not in detail. I havent seen you review any CZ rifle, any cause un particular? Im holding my breath for the comments section on this post. Thats unfortunate because theyre chamberimg it in 7PRC. No. Luckily I was at a store on vacation that let me handle both. Again one star better than average in this category, but it still leaves plenty of room for improvement. It might be Franchi just trying to stay ahead of magazine restrictions in some (less free) parts of the world. excellent trigger. Had a question, What are your thoughts/opinion on the Wilson Combat AR10s? All are captive so you wont lose them. Whats your opinion one the tikka t3x upr vs the waypoint 2020? In regards to the CVA and the Bergara, Im looking at getting one or the other in 7mm Mag. He missed the entire point of the product to rant about what great deals can be had on old guns. I also own a Savage 110 Ultralite in 6.5 PRC- fantastic accuracy, but I just could not warm up to the plasticy stock. I really have enjoyed watching your YouTube channel and reading some of your articles on backfire! Cheers. Fancy for an affordable rifle, the Franchi Momentum sports a one-piece, fluted bolt. Lets weed out a few rifles I DONT recommend first. I used to not care about if the bolt locked on safe but after a walk in the woods of ND with a Ruger American and the bolt falling out, to not be recovered on the opener, I now only have guns that lock the bolt on safe. But honestly these are not deal-breakers (or at least I think so). Never bother with a Winchester M70, because I thought it was old fashion. The best part of learning how much I love hunting was how little I first put in. I dont say that lightly. Keep up the great work. Best purchase I ever made. I am looking into ordering a 20 Super Sniper chambered in .308 and was curious to know if you have had any experience with it? He is a well-known entrepreneur, having started many successful online brands, and lives in St George, Utah. Its like saying 300 Blackout isnt as effective as 300 WinMag. Have you reviewed the werkman? They come in the same price bracket as Tikka rifles but from what I have read, unlike the popular T3X rifles, Sauer 100 rifles A hammer fudged junk barrel that was obviously used. Hello from Bozeman, MT! Thanks for any input. Forearm checkering extends nearly all the way forward, ending just short of another molded-in and recessed sling swivel mount. I understood going into it that it was a boutique and emotionally motivated cartridge choice, but the performance and build quality is excellent. I have been eyeing the ruger go wild.I like the heavier barrel profile. Can you, or have you already, done a review on the Bergara Premier Divide ? We hunt in northern Utah. After reviewing and owning over 40 bolt-action hunting rifles, here are are the best of the best. John did tell me that they are currently working on a fix for the extractor problem. The Franchi Momentum Elite Bolt-Action Rifle also has a 1-piece 1913 Picatinny rail that permits flexible accommodation of various aftermarket optics. Made in Italy? Never worried much about how my rifle looked either before or after the hunt. Im looking for another LR hunting rifle and was seriously looking at Christianson arms but not so much now. Question about the vanguard vs the bergara. JavaScript is disabled. These are deal breakers. Since recording the review of the Sig Cross, my copy of the gun did develop the issue with the safety where it doesnt quite go to the correct position. And a nice walnut stock would have cost them a few more pennies to use. Have you reviewed one yet? Im in the market for my very first rifle and I have been eying up the Weatherby Vanguard ever since I saw you pick it. ITs one of hte most versatile calibers since you can load down to 125 gr bullets and turn it into a .243 in recoil to train kids with a light load. Thanks for the content you put out! A very accurate danish produced rifle. It was raffled, gave winner 450 hoping to thrd and add brake but barrel too thin. In depth and honest Also 243win, 270 win, 300 win mag and 30-06. I wouldnt hesitate to recommend a Weatherby if you find one in a cartridge you like, or if you dont mind shooting Weatherbys overbore cartridges. Any help deciding? Available in: 6.5 Creedmoor, .308 Win, 277 Sig Fury. Fierce rifles are accurate, built well, look great, come with good triggers, and feed perfectly. Ha! Thanks for such a speedy response. Yes your quite right on that and its sad that the majority of hunters never bother to educate themselves in regards to the plethora of 6.5 mm cartridges invented over the years. Mr. Harmer, I really appreciate your reviews on the Sig Cross and Waypoint. I am going to buy one last hunting rifle eventually in 7mm or 7 PRC so I am watching CVA XT and Weatherby. Im looking for ANY rifle with a floor plate, metal, and wood but the only two I find are model 70, and browning. Hey Jim! Franchi is known for making high-quality firearms at affordable prices, and the Momentum Elite is the perfect example of this. Vlad I have no idea who you are but you sure do make a lot of noise and a lot less sense. I mean, this is one heck of a tight group! Savage 110? Boy, so many good 7 mags. I have narrowed my next purchase down to those two. Anyway, love the Backfire channel. Any chance you would do a review on that caliber? I had a question on my first rifle purchase. Im at a point that I can spend $1500+ for a hunting rifle. Im really down to the Fierce Carbon Rival vs the Weatherby MarkV Backcountry. Jim, 2) the 6.5 prc vs the 7 prc ( i have 2 338 win mags i am planning on keeping for elk +), My thoughts? The Tikka action is by far the best in this price point because it cycles ammo perfectly, has a silky smooth bolt slide and is manufactured to a high tolerance so every last one I pick up feels just as good as the one next to it. Beater rifles go until they cant. In my mind, there are only two good options in the sub-$500 price point: (1) The CVA Cascade, and (2) The Ruger American and preferably the Predator version. I\m looking for a good \all around\ big game hunting rifle (elk, whitetail/mule deer, and antelope mostly). COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. I am a big Fierce fan. One issue that has come up with all three of their guns is having to check and tighten the front and rear action assembly screws. I was down to the Ultralite or the Savage High Country and went with the High Country because of this. Ill keep one in mind next time Im in the market. It doesnt snag or grab clothes but somehow its still plenty soft and grippy. Store. The rings came with friction paper. Great Content. I have a bunch of ARs and tactical style stuff but sold the only bolt action I had before I ever fired it(Tikka CTR). Agreed on the MarkV. How is it Franchis fault again? The Sig Cross has really become one of my favorite guns to shoot. I know there will be a lot of hate because Ive been very frank about my opinions, but I test so many rifles that I just wanted one single post that I keep up to date where I can just say it how I see it without any politically correct crap. Hey Jim, I cant say I love the idea of a polymer sling mount with a relatively thin wall to it, but its definitely more out-of-the-way than a protruding stud. The muzzle break sends recoil back into the rifle which breaks cheap scopes . You must log in or register to reply here. Sure, its the same action and barrel, but its dressed up completely differently, and I think it changes the gun significantly. NO, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_control_in_Italy, F Franchi, and Baretta and their ilk. Its incredibly well built. I would love to hear you critique rifle makers that offer nothing left handed in their main lines. Im looking at the Waypoint now. There lies my hole and question to you. I came over the years to loath short action rifles. Fierce Reaper I just love it so much. I really enjoy your reviews and opinions. I wanted to get a Bolt Action rifle for hunting and also had always wanted an AR style rifle too. Wont win any extra points for its weight but seems like a quality affordable and very accurate rifle. Wondering your opinion on those I understand theyre not hunting rifles I just thought you would enjoy those rigles as I do. It uses the same barrel as the more expensive Bergara B14 rifles, because they are both owned by the same parent company and come out of the same factories in Spain. Hornady Precision hunter was working well in mine. Hey Jim, big fan of your Youtube channel and I always enjoy watching/reading your content. Curious to hear your thoughts/experience with it. Have you ever tested any Franchi hunting rifles? I think many of us started on something like that, dads old rifle or grandpas. then Also would be cool to see you do a semi-custom rifle (Bighorn action, prefit barrel, Ag composites stock, trigger tech, etc.) The Bergara Mountain 2.0, Kimber Mountain Ascent, Bergara Premier, Browning X-Bolt Pro, Seekins Havac, Weatherby Mark V, Fierce Edge, Christensen Ridgeline, and others are all rifles Im familiar with. I ended up buying a Bergara Mountain 2.0, which checked all the boxes for me as a hunting rifle. Wondering if you have a reason for this Hi Jim, some of us realize we would be charged a certain premium. it just feels right. Franchi Momentum .300 Win Mag 24" Black / Hunter Gray 4 Rds 41553. I\m relatively new to the channel & website, and it has quickly become a favorite of mine. Really enjoy reading your reviews and opinions! Ergonomics * * * * My experience as well Tim! Great to see honest reviews that are very entertaining hope to see many more. Theres also no shortage of cartridges that send a 6.5mm bullet at much higher velocities than the Swede so I have to assume by your metric those are all superior to the Swede? Im thinking a 6 creedmoore with a proof carbon barrel, MDT onyx chassis, timmey trigger but cant decide on the action. I really enjoy watching all of your youtube reviews. The stock feels like it is created of a very tough polymer. (1) The Springfield 2020 Waypoint with a steel barrel, (2) You could wait a few months for the new Bergara B14 Squared Crest to come out, or (3) Get a Sig Cross. Watch my review here. Jim, after watching the review of your Rival I wanted you to know I had the same problems with mine. Christensen Ridgeline So many people have asked me to review one, and I just cant justify spending $2,000 on one because Ive heard so many reports of inconsistent manufacturing quality. that blew my mind that an OOB rifle would have that much contact. You know, turning ammo into noise kind of use. I'm looking at it in 300 win mag. Ive been looking at the varment line in a 6.5 cm. I thought of the Waypoint myself but I also like the Sako Finnlight II. Two shots were thrown right out of the group and the barrel was not yet even very warm. The stock is cheesy feeling, but nicely shaped and rigid. Its very heavy, the straight pull was difficult to work with and made a few of my shots not go off because I didnt quite push it ALL the way forward. The plasticky stock is Pure junk. Do you have any experience with the Franchi? As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Kimber Mountain Ascent Subalpine I just dont like the Kimber Mountain Ascent. I load for better, but what would you choose? Im going to let it cure for a day or so before testing it, if I still have an issue with slippage or it effects accuracy, I will switch out for new rings. Ill be curious to see them for myself, but Ive heard good things. With a typical retail price of $549, the Franchi Momentum is a lot of Italian hunting rifle for not a lot of cash. Thanks and keep up the great content! This post contains affiliate links to help monetize this site. Though the forend wasnt perfectly centered coming closer to the left side of the barrel than the right side it was stiff enough that causing it to contact the free-floated barrel was difficult and wouldnt happen under most typical use. Jim, would love to hear some feedback on Cooper firearms if you have any input? I was unaware of the QC issues with the Cross. Fierce are not perfect but over all compared to everything else on the market there really hard to beat. I am looking for a new rifle, and am looking at the Franchi Momentum Elite, was looking for any input by those of you that have one. Push it flush with the inside of the trigger guard, and . I have 13 riffles in calibers from 7mm08 , 270 ( my favorite caliber), 300H&H and 300 WM and 300WSM in Weatherby Mark V and Vanguard, Sako, Tika, Winchester model 70 pre 64 and new one, Kleingunther, Browning Xbolt, Browning medallion, BAR in 270 and 300 WM, 7mmMag in Weatherby Vanguard and Sako composite, Bennelli Lupo in 270. It truly needs to be able to handle rough handling. I verified it with factory ammo, Guaranteed 1 MOA accuracy, but probably beats that, Guaranteed 1 MOA. Hi Jim, Know it is not a bolt action rifle, but how does the Henry Long Ranger stack up against these options? Nor do my groups appear to be outliers for the Momentum. Keep up the good work. Or, even better if your choice cost less. Shot yesterday and shot at 200, 300 and 400 yards, 1/2-3/4 MOA. And dollar for dollar you could never purchase a rifle that guarantees you 1 moa back several years ago for the same relative cost. Removable e Box Magazine (Large Capacity) Theres something cool coming. A junk plasticky trigger guard, its enough to make you barf just looking at it. Great rifle. You should always spend your hard earned money on what *you* like, but the Franchi stock strikes me as an example of what the late Chuck Hawks called "Euro trash.". This ammo is usually an average accuracy performer for me, but dang did the Franchi shoot it well. Surprised you didnt mention anything about the Sako 85. If youre going to buy a Ruger American, know there are dozens of different configurations available. The rifles are accurate, reliable, and built well. what do you think of it? Thanks for the videos, they have been great! Newer is not always better. Wish I discovered your content sooner and thankful for all your hard work. I would not even try and shoot a moose with the Creedmore but its no problem with the 6.5 Swede with its 1 in 7.8 twist with the 160 grain slugs. I have been looking at the Browning BAR for years, its a great gun, but I would really like to have an AR format. A junk dull blue finish, it would have costed them too much to put a decent high gloss bluing on it. I am looking to spend around $1200, and I am between the Savage ultralite and the Howa carbon kratos. So far really like it FYI. Italy has crazy gun control laws, like most of Europe. Heres a link to that rifle in .30-06. I was in the market for an affordable hunting rifle this year and you helped me a lot and changed my mind on my first choice. I didnt see a Bergara in your list. Sign of the times, Im sure you know what Im talking about. Which leaves Winchester, Weatherby, Tikka/Sako. Great deal. Any opinion on it? Style and Appearance * * * * Overall, it seems like a decent gun for the price. And outside chance of a Bergara HMR or sauer 100 Pantera. Overall * * * * I like the Sig Cross because its lightweight, easily adjustable to fit me or my kids, very accurate, and the short barrel and folding stock make it easily packable for hunts. I stewed over it for a minute but he made me answer, and I said to go with the Tikka T3x Lite. Manual cover also says- Do not use without reading Manual. Excellent 3/4 MOA accuracy with Hornady Precision Hunter ammo, QD Flush cups and picatinny embedded in the stock, Available in all the most popular chamberings for custom rifles (including 7 PRC), I personally would have preferred that they went with a more modern vertical grip, I wish there were an arca rail on the bottom of the forend for connecting to a tripod. Been looking at the franchi momentum has anyone got this rifle ? Well yeah man its a larger case. Also, I think the X-Bolt Pro just isnt bringing enough to the table for doubling the price over a regular X-Bolt. Although, I think Vlad is optimistic on price, but you can find a deal. Franchi Momentum Varmint Elite .224 Valkyrie 24" 1:7 Bbl TrueTimber Prairie/Midnight Bronze 7+1 Rifle 41712. Honestly, you need to review one. Hello Jim. (Solid review on your part.). I really don\\\t need an other gun, but what is the best 7mm Mag you suggest? On the flip side, a 60-degree throw is often not always, but usually stiffer, and this was the case here. The Tikka T3X Lite comes with an absolutely fantastic action. Ive been a little coy about recommending one specific rifle in this price range because its a tight race. Have to admit I love Henrys, so am trying to take my heart out of the decision with wisdom from someone more experienced like you. I looked it up and the barrel profile is exactly the same for bigger calibers. have since restocked it with a B&C M40, and will use it for long range targets and steel. I think the rifle is feature rich and might be a real shooter. One thing I always know I need in any rifle, hunting or range, is accuracy. I dont see the stock being much different really.
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