Demiurge Prime Marvel Universe (Earth-616) Others Others Billy Kaplan Moridun Year 20XX destroyed by Moridun (Earth-16364) Categories Categories: Disambiguation Pages Community content is available under CC-BY-SA unless otherwise noted. This being is considered not only blind, or ignorant of its own origins, but may, in addition, be evil; its name is also found in Judaism as the Angel of Death and in Christian demonology. Answer: Wiccan is a powerful magic user with a unique tie to Avengers history. But it is only the name that can be said to be specially Valentinian; the personage intended by it corresponds more or less closely with the Yaldabaoth of the Ophites, the great Archon of Basilides, the Elohim of Justinus, etc. @j2111: Hi may I ask where you got these 4th and 5th scans from? Billy scoffed at her advice and told her maybe if he had powers like her he could. Of the entire team of YA Lite, only Enchantress and Coat of Arms (who had been tested by her old acquaintance, Tommy, aka Speed) were asked to join the Young Avengers. The former was dkaios, severely just, the latter agaths, or loving-kind; the former was the "god of this world",[41] the God of the Old Testament, the latter the true God of the New Testament. . After a dangerous and adventure-filled trip through the multiverse, the team ventures to Mother's dimension to rescue Teddy. His brother Tommy, who was a trained sorcerer, assisted the Avengers and the two fought each other until their father the Vision intercepted and destroyed Ultron, ending the battle. (@ultraphoenix), https://twitter.com/spacekicker/status/1364588644032421889. His abilities were first triggered when the Scarlet Witch used her . A massive spell cast by Billy brought in evil clones of the Young Avengers that distracted Mother and allowed their remaining teammates and the rest of the team to escape again, but Mother added the clones to her army.Wiccan quit the Young Avengers after that, convinced, through a manipulative suggestion of Loki's, that Wiccan and Hulkling were In this future, he is the Sorcerer Supreme. 78). Plato's work Timaeus is a philosophical reconciliation of Hesiod's cosmology in his Theogony, syncretically reconciling Hesiod to Homer.[1][2][3]. A. H. Armstrong identified the so-called "Gnostics" that Plotinus was attacking as Jewish and Pagan, in his introduction to the tract in his translation of the Enneads. During this time, Billy attempted to tell his parents that he was a superhero, only to accidentally come out to them. Gnosticism presents a distinction between the highest, unknowable God or Supreme Being and the demiurgic "creator" of the material, commonly identified as Yahweh, the God of the Hebrew Bible. He should win here. The Demiurge will rewrite the rules of magic and all the implications of that decision will echo forward and backward across all realities. writes, "There is a direct link between ancient Gnosticism and Catharism. The Young Avengers were lured into a trap set by the Young Masters, who were waiting with Osborn's Dark Avengers to take down the YA. 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. In the show, Wanda gives birth to Billy and his twin brother Tommy after moving to Westview to start a new life with Vision. Billy used his magical abilities to send Sentry away, taking Osborn's most valuable team member off the board. The team arrived at the Avenger's Tower and with the help of the newly reformed Vision, located additional assistance to rescue Hulkling. Also, considering the evidence from the time, Evangeliou thought the definition of the term "Gnostics" was unclear. After a brief engagement, the Dark Avengers and the Masters were all but defeated. In the report of the system of Basilides,[23] we are told that our world was made by the angels who occupy the lowest heaven; but special mention is made of their chief, who is said to have been the God of the Jews, to have led that people out of the land of Egypt, and to have given them their law. The Super-Skrull noted that Wiccan seemed to have inherited the Scarlet Witch's magical and reality-warping abilities while Tommy has those of her twin brother, Quicksilver. She returned to her own team, and swore revenge on the Young Avengers. Transforms himself into the Scarlet Witch, Conjures up clothes in order to look like a prison guard, Gives Kid Loki a teenage body, making Loki even stronger, Undoes the Enchantress' transformation spell. Billy and Teddy had been helping out when they came across an Asgardian temple being desecrated and pillaged by the Wrecking Crew. In Young Avengers vol. The first and highest aspect of God is described by Plato as the One ( , 'To Hen'), the source, or the Monad. It was during this time that Iron Lad's future self, Kang the Conqueror arrived to bring Iron Lad back to the future and convince him to accept his destiny. In the arch-dualist ideology of the various Gnostic systems, the material universe is evil, while the non-material world is good. Flabbergasted, he then admitted that she was his favorite Avenger. The team is quickly defeated even after the team of Initiative recruits arrive. So am I supposed to repeat the same thing over and over again, too? She reassured him that "Everyone has some gift," and advised him that next time he encounter Kessler, not to back down. When Loki teleports away, seemingly abandoning the team, Wiccan sees no choice but to kill himself in order to end his spell, but is saved by Loki's return. Wiccan doesn't have sufficient control over his powers to fully utilize the Demiurge's powers. The main character refers to the Demiurge as the entity who "fashioned and shaped" the material world. Dude The Unkindness negs I can break this down if you want, and I talked too both authors . Loki's hand is revealed, and Billy is locked in battle with Mother. Iron Lad had found Teddy Altman (Hulkling), Elijah Bradley (Patriot) and now Billy Kaplan (as "Asgardian") who all three agreed to help him, despite their lack of experience. The philosophical usage and the proper noun derive from Plato's Timaeus, written c.360 BC, where the demiurge is presented as the creator of the universe. At the end of the series, the Young Avengers decide to retire, and Wiccan decides to give up his life as a superhero. However, when they go to Asgard, they find that Loki's father Laufey is there as well. Lol @ "universal" demiurge wiccan. This process takes no more than a few hours and we'll They started off by helping out the community, such as saving people from a burning building. The members are Quentin Quire, Patriot, Lightspeed, Speedball and Sophie, Mindee and Esme Cuckoo. You need to read the story again. According to some strains of Gnosticism, the demiurge is malevolent, as it is linked to the material world. He IS omniversal. Level 2: While Wiccan has Mystical Destiny, he will transform into the Demiurge if you have at least 8 AP in all colors. Wiccan and Hulkling are thrown into a prison outside their dimension, but are rescued by Loki. The team confronted the Super-Skrull and freed Hulkling. With the combined focus of Magneto and Speed, he was able to locate the Scarlet Witch, who was presumably dead. Tanks eye beams from Sentry, and comes out unscathed. The true Platonic other-worldliness, which love and venerates the material universe in all its goodness and beauty as the most perfect possible image of the intelligible, contracted at length with the false, Gnostic, other-worldliness which hates and despises the material universe and its beauties (chs. Issues 1 ,2,3 completely null youre incredibly wrong and incorrect statement. Plotinus specifically points to the Gnostic doctrine of Sophia and her emission of the Demiurge. As Wiccan, he joined the Young Avengers and learned he was the reincarnated son of Scarlet Witch and Vision. Carries Hulkling. He briefly achieves this form, and is able to view the past, present and future, as well as freely alter the universe. This link to Judeo-Christian tradition leads to a further comparison with Satan. He recognizes that the Scarlet Witch may not be ready to be found and feels that he is happy enough with his present life. In the Platonic, Neopythagorean, Middle Platonic, and Neoplatonic schools of philosophy, the demiurge (/dmi.rd/) is an artisan-like figure responsible for fashioning and maintaining the physical universe. He seems to be steadily losing ground, until Teddy appears to him. Billy and the other Young Avengers were then confronted by Iron Man, Captain America, and Jessica Jones who disapproved of their unsanctioned vigilantism. Not even remotely. 1. Through magic, he is strong enough to clobber Loki. Undoubtedly, the Wiccan demiurge is very strong (high magic, rewriting of reality on high level and etc.). Plotinus argues of the disconnect or great barrier that is created between the nous or mind's noumenon (see Heraclitus) and the material world (phenomenon) by believing the material world is evil. Until 1974 etymologies deriving from the unattested Aramaic: , romanized: bhth supposedly meaning 'chaos' represented the majority view. Before the Vision could reveal the identity of the father, a battle erupted between Kree and Skrull forces over the fate of Hulkling. Wiccan is destined to become the cosmic entity Demiurge though, so I'd say he has "more potentional" but is still very much in-training. Some readers believed the twins Malachi and Tobias to have been the kidnapped children of the Scarlet Witch and Vision. Billy took to her so well that, later, at a Young Avengers meeting, he vouched for Sylvie. And what about him supposedly rewriting the laws of magic? and our Probably Raven if she is anything like what people pretend Demiurge Wiccan is. Billy and his boyfriend Teddy were among those gathered at the meeting. That was in America (2017) which is what youre referring to. Stature later defected to the pro-registration side, stating that she did not want to go to prison like Wiccan had. When it is employed by other Gnostics either it is not used in a technical sense, or its use has been borrowed from Valentinus. The "One" is further separated into spheres of intelligence; the first and superior sphere is objects of thought, while the latter sphere is the domain of thought. Billy was impressed with the magical capabilities of Sylvie Lushton, aka Enchantress. He and Teddy decided to work with her, and took her out on a training mission against Hydra squadrons. 1). Billy's issues escalated as he grew older and entered high school where his differences became the source of endless torment and violence. @demiurgekaplan: multiversal demi urge has been debunked, https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/demiurge-wiccan-vs-hom-wanda-vs-white-phoenix-jean-2159484/. Eventually he is to become the Demiurge, a being that will change the very fundamentals of magic in the past and the future. Hes even been mentioned in Strikeforce another recent comic book run with Wiccan himself. The performance might range from a nudge to a certain existential state or outcome, to modified every reality in existence. Of note here is that while Plotinus' student Porphyry names Christianity specifically in Porphyry's own works, and Plotinus is to have been a known associate of the Christian Origen, none of Plotinus' works mention Christ or Christianitywhereas Plotinus specifically addresses his target in the Enneads as the Gnostics. These are either hyliko or pneumatiko. Several systems of Gnostic thought present the Demiurge as antagonistic to the will of the Supreme Being: his act of creation occurs in an unconscious semblance of the divine model, and thus is fundamentally flawed, or else is formed with the malevolent intention of entrapping aspects of the divine in materiality. The Demiurge will rewrite the rules of magic and all the implications of that decision will echo forward and backward across all realities. Another alternative title for the demiurge is "Saklas", Aramaic for "fool". Back at the Avengers Mansion, Billy was eager to begin Sylvie's training, but she seemed more interested in getting closer to Billy, whom she appeared to be attracted to, causing Billy a degree of discomfort. He is a reality warper, according to Loki. Teleports his teammates who were spread out at the time mid-fight, so he has good accuracy when it comes to teleporting. Comic Vine users. During the AXIS event, following the Inversion of several heroes and villains on the island of Genosha, the Red Skull was held captive in the Avengers Tower. As the Demiurge, Wiccan completely eradicated Mother and every threat she had created in Young Avengers #13 by Kieron Gillen and Jamie McKelvie. In the theoretic of Plotinus, nous produces nature through intellectual mediation, thus the intellectualizing gods are followed by a triad of psychic gods. 1. The Young Avengers managed to escape to Billy's household. As long as they are near their parents or the location of their parent's deaths, they will be in danger. Wiccan last edited by Unkindness has fewer feats and it took her a whole longer to destroy the multiverse. Billy experiments with some names, adopting the name Demiurge, but later reverts back to Wiccan. Turner, "Gnosticism and Platonism", in Wallis & Bregman. In a fight with Doctor Doom, both Cassie and Vision are killed. Also America: Made in the USA(2021). Last edited on 26 February 2023, at 15:49, introducing citations to additional sources, Learn how and when to remove this template message, Against the Gnostics; or, Against Those that Affirm the Creator of the Cosmos and the Cosmos Itself to be Evil, International Society for Neoplatonic Studies, Dark Mirrors of Heaven: Gnostic Cosmogony, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Demiurge&oldid=1141744969, This page was last edited on 26 February 2023, at 15:49. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. You can continue to delude yourself Wiccan is universal let alone multiversal. 14). Refutation of objections from the inequalities and injustices of human life (ch. He is currently engaged to Teddy Altman, aka Hulkling. Realizing how hard Hulkling's life has been, Wiccan decides to do something to make it up to him, and finds an alterate universe's version of his Hulkling's mother, saving her before her death. There are instances, however, where he doesn't need to chant to cast a spell. However, Master Pandemonium stated that their past was steeped in chaos and tragedy and convinced them that rather than search for who they were in the past, they should embrace who they are now. In the Archontic, Sethian, and Ophite systems, which have many affinities with the doctrine of Valentinus, the making of the world is ascribed to a company of seven archons, whose names are given, but still more prominent is their chief, "Yaldabaoth" (also known as "Yaltabaoth" or "Ialdabaoth"). A hundred years? They are rescued by Noh-Varr and Kate Bishop, and the team flees to Central Park in order to avoid bringing too many people into the spell. He comes from heaven, and it is said his "face flashed with fire and [his] appearance was defiled with blood". Under the name of Nebro (rebel), Yaldabaoth is called an angel in the apocryphal Gospel of Judas. Billy gave up his superhero career, being mostly grounded by his parents who urged him to register. However instead of recreating them as her children, they ended up as the children of other parents. The Young Avengers agreed that in order for reality to stabilize, Iron Lad must return to his own time. Soncesvit - Bulawa (Aerofoil Remix) 25:59 The Faino - Arkan 1012). Loki convinces Wiccan to temporarily give him some of his powers, and Wiccan agrees, seeing no other choice. Loki literally says "you're gonna rewrite the laws of magic across all realities". In the Nag Hammadi text On the Origin of the World, the three sons of Yaldabaoth are listed as Yao, Eloai, and Astaphaios.[31]. Their intent was to kill the Skull to prevent the X-Men (under the leadership of an inverted Storm and Genesis, now the Apocalypse) from taking him. 15). The advice from Pandemonium helped Billy, who is sated for now. One Gnostic mythos describes the declination of aspects of the divine into human form. Quispel[who?] Later, Billy and Teddy joined the rest of their team, and helped the Avengers save what was left of Asgard. Do you read what you are writing? Emil Cioran also wrote his Le mauvais dmiurge ("The Evil Demiurge"), published in 1969, influenced by Gnosticism and Schopenhauerian interpretation of Platonic ontology, as well as that of Plotinus. and apparently if he can't hear himself chanting the spell, it won't cast. He was angry here so there were no spell chants. Wiccan, Speed, and Hulkling team up with Xavin and the Runaways to defeat the Super-Skrulls that are sent to assassinate Hulkling. @stahlflamme: How's he barely universal? hansfenton123 Unable to allow another to suffer Kessler's abuse in his place, he confronted Kessler. The battle was negotiated when the Super-Skrull disguised himself as Hulkling and agreed to spend time with each empire before deciding which to join. The Young Avengers and the Super-Skrull fled the Kree. The work of Plotinus and other later Platonists in the 3rd century AD to further clarify the Demiurge is known as Neoplatonism. Someone on the team (which shall be referred to from hereon out as the Young Masters) contacted Norman Osborn, aka Iron Patriot - America's 'Top Cop' and the leader of H.A.M.M.E.R. The Valentinian theory elaborates that from Achamoth (he kt sopha or lower wisdom) three kinds of substance take their origin, the spiritual (pneumatiko), the animal (psychiko) and the material (hyliko). Eaglemoss released a painted figurine of Wiccan. The idea of Demiurge was, however, addressed before Plotinus in the works of Christian writer Justin Martyr who built his understanding of the Demiurge on the works of Numenius.[12]. To this Messiah, however, was actually united with Jesus the Saviour, Who redeemed men. The two sides clashed until the battle was ended by Captain America's realization that their position was being fought in a manner that only endangered more citizens. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Unkindness has fewer feats and it took her a whole longer to destroy the multiverse. Criticism of the attempts to multiply the hypostasis, and especially of the idea of two intellects, one which thinks and that other which thinks that it thinks. (Kick Duck Dancing) 16:52 GG - Petrivka 19:49 Daniel Christian ft. Kolly Dee - Slava Ukraine 23:19 Andrew StetS feat. The Wiccan and Hulkling of Earth-616 didn't approve of this, and later Wiccan and Hulkling from Earth-721 was sent home. Completely knocks out the Wrecking Crew. I do believe unkindness best feat was eating the multiverse, Demi Wiccan has ascended the multiverse and time. [28][43] In this most common form of Gnosticism the Demiurge had an inferior though not intrinsically evil function in the universe as the head of the animal, or psychic world. It's literally all from the same run. [13] Wiccan was created by Allan Heinberg and Jim Cheung. The only other thing he ever did was wipe out a dimensional parasite, that is at best as powerful as any other entity ruling their own dimension like Mephisto or the like, but likely considerable weaker. Didnt this Raven end her universe? Following an analysis by Scholem this etymology no longer enjoyed any notable support. True Parents. It was in this moment that Osborn called in the big gun. Sylvie revealed to them that she was not actually from Asgard, but that she woke up one morning with powers. The Valentinian Heracleon[46] interpreted the devil as the principle of evil, that of hyle (matter). No she's above Hectate the goddesses of magic in the multiverse . It has been demonstrated that without the ability to hear his own words, the spell cannot be cast, though other uses of his powers have been done seemingly effortlessly and without words. Here he uses an offensive spell but he doesn't repeat the spell. Doctor Strange has also claimed that Wiccan has the potential to be the next Sorcerer Supreme. A second? The two work out their problems, and their love is able to save the universe. The writers confirmed Raven's level of power on Twitter when I asked them! For Billy to activate his reality-bending magic, He must focus on a desire or idea and vocalize, repeating quickly what he wants in order for a spell to be cast. William was believed to be Malachi, who attacked the Avengers during the Crossing story arc. Evangeliou, "Plotinus's Anti-Gnostic Polemic and Porphyry's Against the Christians", in Wallis & Bregman, From "Introduction to Against the Gnostics", Plotinus', Armstrong, pp. Respect William "Billy" Kaplan, aka Wiccan. The team continued to fight crime on the streets, including busting dealers of Mutant Growth Hormone, which granted superpowers to ordinary humans. As he writes in his commentary on John 4:21. Recognizing the Runaways under attack by registration agents on a monitoring screen, the Young Avengers set out to assist them and convince them to join the anti-registration side. Sam Wilson and his newly Inverted Avengers shrunk all the gathered heroes down using Pym particles extracted from the Wasp (presumably against her will) and trapped them all in one of Hank Pym's microscopic ant farms, thereby taking care of the "liability". [18] So Irenaeus tells[19] of the system of Simon Magus,[20] of the system of Menander,[21] of the system of Saturninus, in which the number of these angels is reckoned as seven, and[22] of the system of Carpocrates. However, the act only attracted unwanted press. Unwillingly, Wiccan's spell to bring back Hulkling's mother has brought back the parents of multiple heroes, including Ms. America's. The battle culminated with Iron Lad killing Kang which altered the past and present. Sometime later, Billy is targeted by the Vridai, a race of shapeshifters expelled from their home during War of the Realms. None of which are multivetsal. [32][33], "Samael" literally means "Blind God" or "God of the Blind" in Hebrew (.mw-parser-output .script-hebrew,.mw-parser-output .script-Hebr{font-family:"SBL Hebrew","SBL BibLit","Taamey Ashkenaz","Taamey Frank CLM","Frank Ruehl CLM","Ezra SIL","Ezra SIL SR","Keter Aram Tsova","Taamey David CLM","Keter YG","Shofar","David CLM","Hadasim CLM","Simple CLM","Nachlieli",Cardo,Alef,"Noto Serif Hebrew","Noto Sans Hebrew","David Libre",David,"Times New Roman",Gisha,Arial,FreeSerif,FreeSans}). It's also not in English like normal. While Billy agrees to be tested, the Young Avengers help his to escape from Avengers Tower. Wiccan, Speed, and Hulkling team up with Xavin and the Runaways to defeat the Super-Skrulls that are sent to assassinate Hulkling. So destroying a universe is his best actual feat not his worst. He has to say the action he wants to happen in order for the spell to be cast. Hence that did contradict it. Of course, their threats were played off and ignored. @killianduclark: Thats not even remotely debunking anything. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Wiccan hoped that revealing their existence to Wanda would help her regain her sanity and return to the Avengers. This edit will also create new pages on Comic Vine for: Until you earn 1000 points all your submissions need to be vetted by other A confrontation with the villain Mr. Hyde led to Wiccan's discovery that Patriot had been abusing Mutant Growth Hormone. When the Scarlet Witch used her powers to recreate the world after the House of M event, she inadvertently recreated both William and Thomas as well. However, the Super-Skrull tracked them down, revealing Hulkling's mother to be a Skrull (who was charged to raise him on Earth by Hulkling's birth mother, the deceased Skrull Empress Anelle). His spellcasting is unique, however. He apparently could not save it from breaking apart without some ladies croaking so how powerful does that make him? But Jerusalem represents the creation or the Creator whom the Jews worship. He avoided Kessler at all costs until one day he saw Kessler had found a new victim. 9). You just said yourself the universe he destroyed was fixed by time travel, so not beyond time or reality or time travel would not affect it. 09:51 Andrew Stets ft. Soncesvit - Gutsul. Of note here is the remark concerning the second hypostasis or Creator and third hypostasis or World Soul. You then who are spiritual should worship neither the creation nor the Craftsman, but the Father of Truth. But Yaldabaoth, the Demiurge, with the material world, will be cast into the lower depths. Although a fashioner, the demiurge is not necessarily the same as the creator figure in the monotheistic sense, because the demiurge itself and the material from which the demiurge fashions the universe are both considered consequences of something else. Being raised in a normal home in New York with his loving mother, Rebecca Kaplan, father, Jeff Kaplan, and two brothers, Billy had the average problems for a gay teenager. @j2111: Yeah, I've seen all that before. Wiccan's magic is similar to his mother's, the Scarlet Witch. Magic/Reality-Warping: Billy's main power is the superhuman ability to manipulate reality at will, enabling him to tap into the universe's store of magical energies, which he inherited from his spiritual mother the Scarlet Witch. Hence the title of Plotinus' refutation: "Against Those That Affirm the Creator of the Kosmos and the Kosmos Itself to be Evil" (generally quoted as "Against the Gnostics"). While patterning himself after Thor in the guise of Asgardian, Billy limited himself entirely to flight and lightning based spells. The Gnostics adopted the term demiurge. Later, the Neoplatonist Iamblichus changed the role of the "One", effectively altering the role of the Demiurge as second cause or dyad, which was one of the reasons that Iamblichus and his teacher Porphyry came into conflict. A partially powered Demiurge (aka the Semiurge) holds off Mother's attacks Fully turns into the Demiurge through the power of love As the full-powered Demiurge, he casually removes Mother from existence, who is an extremely powerful matter manipulator, and removes everyone from the pocket dimension into the main universe. This vilification of the creator was held to be inimical to Christianity by the early fathers of the church. 257, 382). The Young Avengers are seen fighting a terrorist group called the Sons if the Serpent. Thus their understanding of the Demiurge is similarly flawed in comparison to Platos original intentions. She was playing with them when Doctor Strange met her in the tower. ToyBiz produced a figure of Wiccan for the Marvel Legends line as part of an exclusive Young Avengers box set. The Runaways rebuked their offer, but joined together when Karolina Dean, the Skrull Xavin, Hulkling and Wiccan were captured by agents of a secret alien-observation base called The Cube. The New Avengers wasn't suggesting it was really bad if that is the case. The etymology of the name Yaldabaoth has been subject to many speculative theories. Are they confirmed it or hinted about it?
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