Mag., look at a .338 Federal, .358 Win., or even 7mm-08 Win. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Any cartridge in a caliber big enough to hit an elk hard hits you hard, too. The right bullet in the right place. Add in the lighter recoil of the .300 Win. Another desirable choice is the also-scarce .358 Winchester, and I took a fine Colorado bull with a Marlin in .338 Marlin Express, a great cartridge. 30 Nosler cases are preferred if forming 27 Nosler cases because of the similar shoulder dimension. With archery energy is not the killing factor, yet arrows kill big elk quickly. Bullets engineered to expand at 7mm terminal velocities are the ticket, and there are plenty of them. At 800 yards the 28 Nosler carries just over 2000 ft lbs of energy. of energy over the 270 Win and 600ft./lbs. It nearly matched ballistics of the Weatherby Magnum. will handle the .338 Win. I think a .30-06 with 180-grain bullet offers about the same performance as a 7mm Remington Magnum with 175-grain bullet. This takes us back to the launch. For most big game animals, energy does not kill them. Over the decades, millions of deer, elk, sheep, bears and pronghorn have fallen to it, to grace the tables and walls of Americas hunters and add chapters to the American hunting lore. But .300 Win. Lots more powder. The "new" .270s (27 Nosler and 6.8 Western), with faster twists and bullets up to 175 grains change the game. Required fields are marked *. The .28 Nosler is a cartridge developed by the Nosler Corporation. of .616 from a 24-inch barrel 3,000 fps and a 190-gr. Chambered in .28 Nosler, this 8 pound, 8 ounce setup kicks quite hard. Not exactly modern, not sizzling, hot or sexy. Faster models like .270 Wby. According to my notes, I've killed 27 elk with a 270. It will work but a little much. bear a closer comparison. For me, its quite tolerable for shooting up to 30 shots in a practice session and certainly a shot or two for hunting. Less variety in factory loads on the market. Measured in foot pounds of energy, the .28 Nosler is a powerhouse. Loaded with a 150gr bullet, the 27 Nosler has an additional 800ft/lbs. After all, this was the round Bell used to collect 800 elephants and untold numbers of Cape buffalo. Mag. Mag. But the .338 Win. The .300 Win Mag is the worlds most popular magnum. . The . I took some big elk with the Swift A-Frame and bullet performance was exceptional. Elk Hunter 338 Official LRH Sponsor. Enjoy your videos very much. If you hunt where the game is tough, the shots are long and demanding, and there is no room for compromise, there is no better choice than the 27 Nosler. For over 90 years, American hunters have taken to the field in pursuit of nearly all the game the lower 48 states have to offer with a trusty 270 in hand. Kevin Steele from Petersen's HUNTING speaks to Jordan Egli of Burris Optics about the all-new Veracity PH Riflescope. Mag. Only downside to the 27N is lack of high BC bullets to really stretch its legs out. They share a maximum body diameter of 14.0 mm (0.550 in). The .270 Winchester fits standard-length actions with standard diameter bolt faces and standard magazines. So, in open country, a fast 7mm has tremendous appeal. Heres a detailed look at each step of the process. slug from the .300 Win. Flatter trajectories. It shoots a svelte .277-caliber 165-grain . because the latter rolls out those wide, .338-inch diameter 250-grain bullets. All Petersen's Hunting subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. There are plenty of other .30-calibers for hire. Will you be able to find ammo? The size of elk also varies. If you plan to order your ammunition online, the best elk hunting cartridge Ive seen is probably the Nosler 160-grain Trophy Grade ammunition with a good old Partition bullet. Okay, but minimal. Because of lower pressure and achieving full velocity with less powder, the .30-06 has less felt recoil than a 7mm Remington Magnum. The 7mm family hatched around 1892 with the 7x57mm Mauser and has since grown to fifteen or more. At 300 yards that bullet should still carry nearly 2,700 ft-lb energy, which is close to what a 180-grain .308 Winchester coughs up at the muzzle. We have an embarrassment of choices in 7mms, and elk dont like any. A standard .270 Winchester can do that, right? When choosing among these three .270s one must consider more than just ballistics. 27 Nosler 145 Hornady ELD-X-How The 27 Nosler Outdoes Other .270s: Based on the .404 Jeffery, its case has exceptional capacity. 28 Nosler is a one and done for everything on NA. It delivers greater velocity than even the gargantuan .270 Weatherby. For 2020, Nosler has chosen to take the venerable 270 caliber to a new level with the introduction of the all-new 27 Nosler. bullet like the Swift Scirocco will retain 2,350 ft-lb at 400 yards, 1,500 ft-lb clear out at 600 yards. How the Brand-New 27 Nosler Revives the .277, We used the new cartridge on a big-game hunt last fall. Equally significant is the 27 Noslers recommended twist rate: 1 turn in 8.5 inches. It's extremely flat shooting and drops an incredible amount of energy on target. Obviously, there is plenty of leeway in all of this, and personal biases can play a big role. Well, as the majority of us are primarily deer hunters, and the .270 Winchester handles deer and similar sized game so well, I dont think that will come to pass. This review can help with that. And I write calibers and cartridges because caliber means the diameter of the bore. You, your kids, and 90 percent of the shooters might love the SIG Cross rifle, in which case the .277 SIG Fury might be your baby. The classic was, is, and remains a lever-action chambered to something larger than .30-caliber. The tougher the terrain, the lighter. could be chambered in the standard Model 70 rifles of the day and eventually most other standard length bolt action rifles. 28 Nosler is essentially a shortened version of the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum (7mm RUM). On the contrary, 150-180 grain bullets in 300 Win Mag can hold up to 1000 rounds. My thoughts are this, the .25-calibers, limited to 120-grain bullets, are too light for bull elk. Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. Some folks will take any attempt to improve the .270 Winchester as a direct insult, yet I disagree: like the .22-250 Remington and .35 Whelen, an improved twist rate can really change the game altogether, and this is exactly what the 27 Nosler has done. Heres a look at 10 of the most flexible long-range hunting cartridges. Even at the 500-yard mark, the 27 Nosler will deliver over 2,100 ft.-lbs. Joined Feb 1, 2016 Messages 82. There have been other .270s, like the .270 Weatherby Magnum, and Winchesters own .270 WSM, but they have maintained the same 1:10-inch twist rate of the .270 Winchester, and use the same projectile weights. Nosler has built quite a cartridge family, and it continues to grow. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Jan 29, 2023 #2 Dang about a month ago shooters pro had blems for $16/25. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. For deer and pronghorn, to much gun. The 27 Nosler has 32% more case capacity than the .270 Winchester, 22% more than the .270 Winchester Short Magnum and 14% more than the .270 Weatherby. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. Again, I believe frontal area matters. I think .277 caliber is going to be the next big thing imo..it will be the next craze similar to the 6.5s..if you get a 27 nosler you will just be getting in ahead of the game. Elk dont like any of this. Mag. The cartridge fires a bullet with a diameter of .284 inches or 7mm. Recoil is about 30-percent less than the .338 Win. To comply with the new e-Privacy directive, we need to ask for your consent to set the cookies. Im not suggesting that elk rifles should be four times more powerful than deer rifles, but elk are tough. Right. Recoil is stout, but substantially less than any magnum .30. In this article, Ill cover the pros and cons Ive found with shooting the .28 Nosler on my recent big game hunting adventures. Ever since Nosler announced that they were coming out with the Nosler 27, I have been thinking I would prefer a Nosler 28. The .30-06 may not be an extreme range cartridge, but it is capable for the shooting most of us would do. Good bullet design and placement seem to work just fine. If you need to balance reach and punch with minimal weight, Id look to the 7mm magnums pushing 150- to 175-grain bullets. It throws a 150-grain bullet 3,300 fps from a 26-inch barrel, about 300 to 400 fps faster than the .270 Winchester, 200 fps faster than the .270 WSSM, and 100 fps quicker than the .270 Weatherby Magnum. Recoil is stout, but manageable. .270 Winchester. But that has nothing to do with the actual performance of the .277 SIG Fury cartridge or rifle. Recoil isn't bad and it will lay out the ft/lbs of energy as ways. Lots of familiar rifles are chambered for it, ammo is abundant, variable and inexpensive. Mag. Many elk hunters consider the old .375 H&H the ultimate elk medicine, but not everyone cares to handle their recoil or the kind of rifle mass that tames it. Fireformed case, overflowing to the neck = 98.4 gr/H2O with a 150 AB seated to 3.340 OAL = 89.9 gr/H2O. Benefits of the .28 Nosler. The .270 Winchesters SAAMI spec maximum chamber pressure is 65,000 psi. The .277 Fury works with much higher chamber pressures to get high velocity. He is a well-known entrepreneur, having started many successful online brands, and lives in St George, Utah. However, strong-bodied hunters who will only shoot 20 shots in a practice session and a few shots for hunting will likely have no trouble at all. Mag. The 225-grain load in an eight-pound rifle should generate about 40.8 ft-lb of recoil energy. So, next best thing: If youre serious about longer shots on elk, man up and use a fast .30 with todays heavy, low-drag bullets, 200 to 225 grains. In the article it states that the 28 Nosler carries 1500 ft lbs tot 747 yards. Heft up to a 10-pound rifle and kick will calm to just 32.7 ft-lb. Recoil isn't bad and it will lay out the ft/lbs of energy as ways. Extremely flat shooting. The final arbiters of the Best elk calibers are you and the elk, but here are my top five that I chose for their balance of power, reach, recoil, trajectory (drop and drift,) availability, affordability in reasonably compact, light, mountain ready rifles. cannot measure up to the .338 Win. Okay, but minimal. .284-inch bullet or a 180-gr. But up close, you notice a custom upgrade that allows this piece of machinery to do [], Citing the critical importance of elk, deer and other big game migration corridors, winter range and other vital habit, the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation urged [], West Virginias elk herd continues to grow and biologists are doing the best they can to monitor the populations health, size, movements and habitat use. Thats good enough for 3,500 ft-lb muzzle punch. I tested the new cartridge at the bench in both the Nosler Model 21 and Nosler Model 48 rifles, and was pleased with the results; the 165-grain load averaged just under -MOA, and the 150-grain load just under one-MOA. Calibers lighter and heavier than the 7mms through .338s can be considered excellent for elk. From a distance, it looks like your typical Bobcat. With the right bullets, it can actually hit harder than the 375 H&H Magnum at longer ranges. You are all set and go forth with complete confidence. One of them was even a clean pass through and she only walked about 20 yards and piled-up. But that doesnt mean we cant come up with other cartridges shooting .277-inch bullets. will want to try the more radical-looking SIG Cross in .277 Fury. Fine options include the old .264 Win. However, if I had it to do over, Id get a .300 PRC. The .28 Nosler cartridge is one of the best cartridges for hunting elk as long as controlled-expansion bullets are used. But in the chart it says it carries it to over 1200 yards. But if youre going to this narrow caliber, choose one with more velocity than the Creedmoor. Ammo is easier to find in a greater variety of bullet weights and styles, too. From the post-World War II era . I've also shot elk with my 338-06, 30-06AI, 30-06, 7mmRM, 284W, and in the last two years, three elk with a 243W. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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